| Editor's Notes: Portland takes on Chicago |
| Robin Doussard |
| Friday, 05 February 2010 |
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I don't usually cede my blog to public officials (in fact, never), but this missive I just got today from the desk of Tim McCabe, chief of the state's economic development agency, challenging Chicago Mayor Richard Daley to an economic duel was just too fun:
Dear Honorable Mayor Daley:
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Well done!
written by Chris , February 05, 2010 11:25:03 am PST Nice rebuttal. Daley clearly was looking for a little PR, rather than relying on any facts to back up his little stunt. report abuse
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Can someone make sure Lars Larson sees this?
written by Bill Hersh , February 05, 2010 12:17:30 pm PST And stop his misinformed diatribes? report abuse
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Nice Job, Tim!
written by Charlie Mitchell , February 05, 2010 3:44:23 pm PST Nothing like the facts, and you didn't even mention the utility rates. report abuse
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Taking this a bit personal?
written by Thom , February 05, 2010 8:30:38 pm PST The fact is Daley is unlikely to snag any Oregon businesses. However, he is smart to try. Oregon is one of the best states in this country but there are others that are great as well. Smart city and state leaders will be doing some fishing in our state. Some of them will be successful. I've read a number of commentaries about Daley and each one brags about Oregon being the 14th best state for businesses. When did 14th place become something to brag about? It is a mistake to be so smug. Some businesses will probably move to the top 13. Let's just hope for, and support others that could replace those we lose. report abuse
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written by Ted , February 08, 2010 1:32:55 pm PST Tit-for-tat aside, a tax increase from 6.6% to 7.9% (a net increase of 1.3%) on Gross sales over $250,000 discriminates against low margin businesses and most likely puts many out of business regadless of Gross sales. The first order of business for survival would be to cut labor costs. Larger Gross income businesses should move depending on the marginal cost savings versus the costs to move. Added to the "move or not move" equation would be the personal tax rate savings to the owners of these businesses. Low margin businesses are typically in highly competitive industries and International market competitors are only compounding the issue. Taxes, tariffs and protectionism have never worked in sustainable terms but we pass these at will. The good news for Oregon, is that most decisions are not made on pure economics but we are moving closer to the edge . . . if not already there. Sarcastically, who cares about low margin businesses anyway? We want to foster, attract and grow high margin, green, high paying service oriented businesses and jobs . . . oops, isn't that uh, Government? report abuse
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written by PCJ , February 10, 2010 9:06:11 am PST While it's true the aggregate tax on business is still rated among the lowest in the nation, Measure 66 and 67 will likely have 2 unintended consequences: Most small businesses are eithere LLC's or S-corps, meaning the income of the business flows through directly to the owner. I don't know the exact statistics, yet would venture to guess that most people with taxable income over $250k are small business owners. This means the extra 2% income tax really becomes a tax on small business. Owners of small businesses will need to determine how to compensate for additional taxes (hire fewer people? not purchase equipment?) The $10 minimum tax was crazy and increasing it made sense. However, to attack larger companies who aren't making money with a significant gross consumption tax will cause them to consider other options...like shut down plants in Oregon that aren't performing instead of investing in them. Again, more job losses. report abuse
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Wrong Measure of Biz Climate Factors
written by Chuck Sheketoff , February 10, 2010 9:59:28 am PST It is too bad that Oregon's economic development guy thinks Oregon's business climate is shaped by taxes. It will be a great day when we have someone at that post who will extol our quality public services that support successful businesses and our quality of life as better barometers of Oregon's business climate. And... why didn't he tell the mayor about how when the national economy does well Oregon does very, very well? The best thing we could do for our business climate is build a better budget reserve so we can keep Oregon moving forward during the next downturn. It would have been nice to see McCabe support the Governor on that. report abuse
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Portland takes on Chicago
written by John A. Ward , February 10, 2010 1:53:38 pm PST Nice rebuttal, to bad there is no link to 'the Tax Foundation' report quoted in the overview. I have found a report by the Small Business e& Entrepreneurship Council, www.sbecouncil.org that measures 16 taxes the affect small businesses. In that report, done BEFORE the consumption tax increases has Oregon at 34th and now lower NOT in the top 14 best states. I suppose it is easier to quote a study that helps your argument, but I don't think it was an effective rebuttal, since by the Small Business Council Illinois is ranked much more friendly to small business than Oregon. report abuse
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No real estate conveyance tax in all but one or two counties in Oregon
written by More Support for Local Taxes , February 10, 2010 2:14:30 pm PST Business owners from out-of-state are plesasantly shocked to find that they do not have to fork over money to the locality in which they buy buildings. When will Oregon change that? That is low-hanging fruit. A conveyance tax has existed in Washington County for about 30 years and it certainly didn't restrict sales. Just because the real estate sales trade doesn't like it and has been able to stop expanding the conveyance tax to other counties, does NOT mean it shouldn't be done. report abuse
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